Eric/Jim:
I didn¹t pick up on the ³Ruth² but now think you¹re onto something here.
Wilfred Lloyd ³Willie² McCully¹s obit says; ³special aunts, and uncles that
were like brothers and sisters to him². This indicates to me he was raised
as by his grandparents as a son, not a grandson.
The secret may be to track down the obit for Ruth Marsh via first locating
the 1972 obit for Roland Walter Marsh to see if ³Ruth² has a married name
etc.
Dave
On 1/7/10 11:09 PM, "keysie" <keysie@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave/Jim:
>
> The name Ruth pops up again.
>
> In Wilfred LLoyd McCully's obit it is mentioned that he is predeceased by his
> "sister Ruth". Bertha born in 1910 would have been about 14-15 when Wilfred
> was born in January 1925. Could Wilfred be a son by Bertha - his sister being
> "Ruth Marsh" daughter of Bertha?
>
> Eric
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Saint John Telepgraph published: Mar 17, 2004
> McCULLY, WILFRED LLOYD "WILLIE" - Passed away peacefully at his home on
> Monday, March 15, 2004. Husband of the late Christine Mae and special
> companion of the late Myrtle Tonge. He is survived by his three children;
> Eugene (Luann) McCulley of Saint John, Deborah (John) Theriault of
> Fredericton, and Rosalie (Nelson) Guthrie of Grand Manan. He is also survived
> by his five chosen children; Allen (Sylvia) Smith of Quispamsis, Gary (Joanne)
> Smith of Ontario, Colleen (Donald) Durant of Saint John, Dianne (John) Mailman
> of Nerepis, and Wayne Tonge of Barnesville; his many grandchildren, and great
> grandchildren; his special aunts, and uncles that were like brothers and
> sisters to him; and his special friend and companion Beatrice Gardner. ***He
> was predeceased by his parents; sister Ruth****; special uncle Lorne
> McCully;...(excerpted for convenience)
> [Source: Jack Wagstaff. 03/17/2004]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Winter" <davidwinter@...
> <mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca> >
> To: "nscumber" <nscumber@yahoogroups.com <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com> >
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [nscumber] Seymour McCulley of Port Greville
>
> Jim:
>
> THANK YOU. I guess at the time, I wasn¹t into these McCulley¹s and just sent
> it to you and Jack back in 2006 without posting. I¹ll re-date it 6 Jan 2010
> in my file.
>
> In looking at this obit again, I may possibly have made a typo in that Jock
> Baker should be ³Jack² [John Lawrence] Baker. Notice no mention of Murray as
> a ³brother².
>
> One less name in the bucket list for the next trip and a new name, Ruth
> Marsh.
>
> Dave
>
> On 1/6/10 9:52 AM, "Jim Welsh" <welsh793@...
> <mailto:welsh793%40earthlink.net> > wrote:
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Dave,
>> > You had previously did Bertha. Don't have a date though sometime in
>> > 2006
>> >
>> > Parrsboro Record, Tuesday, August 17, 1943, pg. #4; Reel #2864, NSARM,
>> > Halifax, N.S.
>> > OBITUARY: Mrs. Roland Marsh
>> > The death of Mrs. Roland Marsh of Five Islands, occurred at Highland View
>> > Hospital, Amherst, on Friday, where she had been a patient for a few days.
>> > She had been in indifferent health for some time and was under medical
>> > attention. Before her marriage, she was Miss Bertha McCulley, daughter of
>> > Mr. and Mrs. Seymour McCully of Port Greville. Mr. and Mrs. Marsh resided
>> > for some time in Parrsboro and she had many friends in this district who
>> > learned with regret of her passing. Besides her husband, the deceased
>> leaves
>> > to mourn her loss a daughter, Ruth; her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Seymour
>> > McCully of Port Greville; six sisters, Gletta McCully, Fox River; Mrs. Jock
>> > Baker, Five Islands; Mrs. Alvin Newcombe, Parrsboro; Mrs. Roland Allen, Fox
>> > River; Mrs. Onslow Legere, Parrsboro; Mrs. Bert McKay, Amherst; seven
>> > brothers, Emmerson and Trueman, both of Ward's Brook; Harold, Wilfred and
>> > Lorne, all of Saint John; Thornton, Grand Manaan; and Brenton of Fox River.
>> > The largely attended funeral service was held from her late home in Five
>> > Islands on Sunday afternoon. All members of the family were present except
>> > her brother, Harold who was at sea.
>> > Source: Dave Winter
>> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>> >
>> > David Winter wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Eric:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > A real puzzler for sure!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > The only McCully daughters old enough to have him were:
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Winnie but she married 15 Jul 1919 to Bertram Amos McKay of Shulee
>>>> >> > Gertrude but she married 11 Sep 1923 to Alvin Emerson Necombe
>>>> >> > Carrie but she married 25 Sep 1924 to Onslow Alexander ³Onnie² >>>>
Legere
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > But then there¹s Bertha married 1 Nov 1928 to Roland Walter Marsh
>>>> >> > and died
>>>> >> > 13 Aug 1943. She¹d be single and about age 15 when ³Willie² was born
>>>> >> > IF she
>>>> >> > was his birth mother. Bertha and Meaurita appear to be twin sisters. I
>>>> >> > can¹t
>>>> >> > see Meaurita as Wilie¹s mother as she recognized Murray so why
>>>> >> > wouldn¹t she
>>>> >> > recognize Willie?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Ruby and Gletta would have been too young.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Also in Willie¹s obit, odd none of his 2 wives are mentioned; Mary
>>>> Shannon
>>>> >> > and Christine Mae Avery.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Guess I¹ll have to add Winnie and Bertha¹s obits to the bucket list.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Winnie was alive in 1985 when Brenton died but deceased in 1999 when
>>>> >> > Gletta
>>>> >> > and Emerson died.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Has anyone checked the Herald Obit CD searching McCully/McCulley -
>>>> >> > McKay/MacKay?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Dave
>>>> >> > ==============
>>>> >> > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
>>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210>
>>> >> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=34221
>>> 0> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
>>> > >
>>>> >> > <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
>>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210>
>>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210 >
>>> >> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=34221
>>> 0> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
>>> > >
>>> >> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210>
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210 > >
>
>>>> >> > Details #342210
>>>> >> > Index to New Brunswick Marriages
>>>> >> > Name MCCULLEY, WILFRED LLOYD
>>>> >> > Married SHANNON, MARY
>>>> >> > Date 1945 | 01 | 04 (Y-M-D)
>>>> >> > County SAINT JOHN
>>>> >> > Parish SAINT JOHN
>>>> >> > Number 40048
>>>> >> > Reference B4/1945
>>>> >> > Microfilm F20036
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
>>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804>
>>> >> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=30280
>>> 4> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
>>> > >
>>>> >> > <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
>>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804>
>>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804 >
>>> >> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=30280
>>> 4> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
>>> > >
>>> >> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804>
>>> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804 > >
>
>>>> >> > Details #302804
>>>> >> > Index to New Brunswick Marriages
>>>> >> > Name AVERY, CHRISTINE MAE
>>>> >> > Married MCCULLEY, WILFRED LLOYD
>>>> >> > Date 1948 | 01 | 24 (Y-M-D)
>>>> >> > County CHARLOTTE
>>>> >> > Parish GRAND MANAN
>>>> >> > Number 1129
>>>> >> > Reference B4/1948
>>>> >> > Microfilm F20049
>>>> >> > +++++++++++++++++++
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > On 1/5/10 6:52 PM, "keysie" <keysie@...
>>>> <mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca>
>>> >> <mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca>
>>>> >> > <mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca>> wrote:
>>>> >> >
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > Dave/Jim:
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > All this McCully reading has led me back to Gleta's brother,
Willie,
>>>> >> > whose
>>>>>> >>> > > obit appears below together with a note from Jack Wagstaff to Jim
Welsh.
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > Other than being predeceased "special uncle Lorne McCully" and
>>>> >> > "sister Ruth"
>>>>>> >>> > > no siblings are mentioned. Even the parents names are omitted.
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > One question here is: was "Ruth" a misprint for Ruby Beatrice who
>>>> >> > died in
>>>>>> >>> > > December 2006? I do not have a Ruth as a sibling in this family.
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > However, Ruby and Maurita were still alive in March 2004 but
>>>> >> > Maurita's not
>>>>>> >>> > > mentioned.
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > Jack suggests in his note to Jim that Wilfred Lloyd McCully may
be
>>>> >> > Seymore &
>>>>>> >>> > > Maude's grandson as a son of an unmarried daughter. However, only
>>>> >> > Winnifred
>>>>>> >>> > > and Gertrude May were older than Wilfred and they were 5 and 2
>>>> >> > respectively
>>>>>> >>> > > when Wilfred was born in March 1903. It couldn't have been a son
of
>>>> >> > one of
>>>>>> >>> > > the other children. So if Wilfred was an "adopted" son of Seymore
&
>>>> >> > Maude,
>>>>>> >>> > > then who might he be? and who might "sister Ruth" be?
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > Turn over another rock and find...
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > Eric
>>>>>> >>> > >
>>>>>> >>> > > ============================
>>>>>> >>> > > Saint John Telepgraph published: Mar 17, 2004
>>>>>> >>> > > McCULLY, WILFRED LLOYD "WILLIE" - Passed away peacefully at his
home on
>>>>>> >>> > > Monday, March 15, 2004. Husband of the late Christine Mae and
special
>>>>>> >>> > > companion of the late Myrtle Tonge. He is survived by his three
>>>> >> > children;
>>>>>> >>> > > Eugene (Luann) McCulley of Saint John, Deborah (John) Theriault
of
>>>>>> >>> > > Fredericton, and Rosalie (Nelson) Guthrie of Grand Manan. He is
also
>>>> >> > survived
>>>>>> >>> > > by his five chosen children; Allen (Sylvia) Smith of Quispamsis,
>>>> >> > Gary (Joanne)
>>>>>> >>> > > Smith of Ontario, Colleen (Donald) Durant of Saint John, Dianne
>>>> >> > (John) Mailman
>>>>>> >>> > > of Nerepis, and Wayne Tonge of Barnesville; his many
>>>>>> grandchildren,
>>>> >> > and great
>>>>>> >>> > > grandchildren; his special aunts, and uncles that were like
>>>>>> brothers and
>>>>>> >>> > > sisters to him; and his special friend and companion Beatrice
>>>> >> > Gardner. He was
>>>>>> >>> > > predeceased by his parents; ***sister Ruth***; ****special uncle
Lorne
>>>>>> >>> > > McCully****; chosen child Sheila (Smith) Paulin. Wilfred was a
>>>>>> life long
>>>>>> >>> > > member of the Royal Canadian Legion Branch #69. He served his
>>>> >> > country in World
>>>>>> >>> > > War II in the Merchant Navy. He worked with Irving until his
>>>> >> > retirement from
>>>>>> >>> > > CFM in 1990. During his spare time he loved attending Sunday
evening
>>>> >> > legion
>>>>>> >>> > > dances, and spending time with his many friends. Resting at
>>>>>> Brenan's
>>>> >> > Select
>>>>>> >>> > > Community Funeral Home 111 Paradise Row, Saint John, NB (506)
>>>> >> > 634-7424 with
>>>>>> >>> > > visitation on Thursday 2-4 and 7-9pm. Members of the Royal >>>>>>
Canadian
>>>> >> > Legion are
>>>>>> >>> > > having a tribute service at the funeral home Thursday at 7pm. The
>>>> >> > funeral
>>>>>> >>> > > service will be held on Friday March 19, 2004 from Brenan's
>>>>>> Funeral Home
>>>>>> >>> > > Chapel at 10am. Interment will take place in Cedar Hill Ext.
>>>> >> > Donations may be
>>>>>> >>> > > made to Canadian Cancer Society or the New Brunswick Heart and
Stroke
>>>>>> >>> > > Foundation.www.brenansfh.com
>>>>>> >>> > > [Source: Jack Wagstaff. 03/17/2004]
>>>>>> >>> > > ============================
>>>>>> >>> > > Note from Jack Wagstaff to James Welsh:
>>>>>> >>> > > Has to be the s/o Seymore and Maude McCully of Port Greville and
Fox
>>>> >> > River
>>>>>> >>> > > even though no mention is made of parents and the other approx.
14
>>>> >> > siblings -
>>>>>> >>> > > - only Lorne as an uncle. In fact, he was brought up as a s/o
>>>> >> > Seymore and
>>>>>> >>> > > Maude but I have heard that he was actually their grandson having
>>>> >> > been born to
>>>>>> >>> > > an unmarrried daughter of Seymore and Maude. This may account for
>>>> >> > the reason
>>>>>> >>> > > no siblings were in the obit and only his uncle Lorne.
>>>>>> >>> > > [Source: Jack Wagstaff. 03/17/2004]
>>>>>> >>> > > ============================
>>>>>> >>> > > McCULLY, Lorne B. - 82, North Head Grand Manan, N.B., died >>>>>>
December
>>>> >> > 9, 2000,
>>>>>> >>> > > in Colchester Regional Hospital, Truro. Born in Port Greville,
>>>> >> > Cumberland Co.,
>>>>>> >>> > > he was a son of the late Seymour and Maude (Ells) McCully. He
began
>>>> >> > his career
>>>>>> >>> > > going to sea at a young age on sailing vessels plying the Minas
>>>> >> > Basin, the Bay
>>>>>> >>> > > of Fundy and the east coast of the United States. Later he was
>>>> >> > employed for
>>>>>> >>> > > many years as chief engineer on the Grand Manan Ferries from
which
>>>> >> > he retired.
>>>>>> >>> > > He and his wife Stella owned and operated Lorne's Store in North
>>>> >> > Head for many
>>>>>> >>> > > years. For the past nine years he was a part-time resident of
>>>>>> Parrsboro.
>>>>>> >>> > > Surviving are his companion, Margie Manning, Parrsboro; chosen
>>>> >> > daughter, Patty
>>>>>> >>> > > Wood and family, North Head Grand Manan; sisters, Carrie Legère,
>>>> >> > Amherst; Ruby
>>>>>> >>> > > Allen, Fox River; Gertrude Newcomb, Parrsboro; Meaurita Hahnen,
New
>>>> >> > Glasgow;
>>>>>> >>> > > brothers, Murray, Dartmouth; Wilford, Westville, NB. He was
>>>> >> > predeceased by his
>>>>>> >>> > > wife, the former Stella Stanley; brothers, Harold, Brenton,
>>>> >> > Thornton, Emeron,
>>>>>> >>> > > Truman; sisters, Gleta, Bertha, Winnifred. Funeral was held
>>>>>> Wednesday in
>>>>>> >>> > > Wesleyan United Church, North Head. Burial in the parish >>>>>>
cemetery.
>>>> >> > Donations
>>>>>> >>> > > to Heart and Stroke Foundation or any charity. Arrangements
>>>> >> > entrusted to Ells
>>>>>> >>> > > Funeral Home, Grand Harbour, NB.
>>>>>> >>> > >
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