Eric,
I agree with you that Wilfred couldn't have been the child of Maude. She
would have been 46. Possible but not likely as in the similar situation
of Murray St. Clair
Who his birth mother will probably remain a mystery that has gone to the
grave with someone in that family.
Your reason is valid and I have added it to my notes with him. I have
also moved him to Bertha's family.
Thanks for the suggestion.
Jim
keysie wrote:
>
> Dave/Jim:
>
> The name Ruth pops up again.
>
> In Wilfred LLoyd McCully's obit it is mentioned that he is predeceased
> by his "sister Ruth". Bertha born in 1910 would have been about 14-15
> when Wilfred was born in January 1925. Could Wilfred be a son by
> Bertha - his sister being "Ruth Marsh" daughter of Bertha?
>
> Eric
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> Saint John Telepgraph published: Mar 17, 2004
> McCULLY, WILFRED LLOYD "WILLIE" - Passed away peacefully at his home
> on Monday, March 15, 2004. Husband of the late Christine Mae and
> special companion of the late Myrtle Tonge. He is survived by his
> three children; Eugene (Luann) McCulley of Saint John, Deborah (John)
> Theriault of Fredericton, and Rosalie (Nelson) Guthrie of Grand Manan.
> He is also survived by his five chosen children; Allen (Sylvia) Smith
> of Quispamsis, Gary (Joanne) Smith of Ontario, Colleen (Donald) Durant
> of Saint John, Dianne (John) Mailman of Nerepis, and Wayne Tonge of
> Barnesville; his many grandchildren, and great grandchildren; his
> special aunts, and uncles that were like brothers and sisters to him;
> and his special friend and companion Beatrice Gardner. ***He was
> predeceased by his parents; sister Ruth****; special uncle Lorne
> McCully;...(excerpted for convenience)
> [Source: Jack Wagstaff. 03/17/2004]
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Winter" <davidwinter@...
> <mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca>>
> To: "nscumber" <nscumber@yahoogroups.com
> <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com>>
> Sent: Wednesday, January 06, 2010 10:22 AM
> Subject: Re: [nscumber] Seymour McCulley of Port Greville
>
> Jim:
>
> THANK YOU. I guess at the time, I wasn¹t into these McCulley¹s and
> just sent
> it to you and Jack back in 2006 without posting. I¹ll re-date it 6 Jan
> 2010
> in my file.
>
> In looking at this obit again, I may possibly have made a typo in that
> Jock
> Baker should be ³Jack² [John Lawrence] Baker. Notice no mention of
> Murray as
> a ³brother².
>
> One less name in the bucket list for the next trip and a new name, Ruth
> Marsh.
>
> Dave
>
> On 1/6/10 9:52 AM, "Jim Welsh" <welsh793@...
> <mailto:welsh793%40earthlink.net>> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dave,
> > You had previously did Bertha. Don't have a date though sometime in
> > 2006
> >
> > Parrsboro Record, Tuesday, August 17, 1943, pg. #4; Reel #2864, NSARM,
> > Halifax, N.S.
> > OBITUARY: Mrs. Roland Marsh
> > The death of Mrs. Roland Marsh of Five Islands, occurred at Highland
> View
> > Hospital, Amherst, on Friday, where she had been a patient for a few
> days.
> > She had been in indifferent health for some time and was under medical
> > attention. Before her marriage, she was Miss Bertha McCulley,
> daughter of
> > Mr. and Mrs. Seymour McCully of Port Greville. Mr. and Mrs. Marsh
> resided
> > for some time in Parrsboro and she had many friends in this district who
> > learned with regret of her passing. Besides her husband, the
> deceased leaves
> > to mourn her loss a daughter, Ruth; her parents, Mr. and Mrs. Seymour
> > McCully of Port Greville; six sisters, Gletta McCully, Fox River;
> Mrs. Jock
> > Baker, Five Islands; Mrs. Alvin Newcombe, Parrsboro; Mrs. Roland
> Allen, Fox
> > River; Mrs. Onslow Legere, Parrsboro; Mrs. Bert McKay, Amherst; seven
> > brothers, Emmerson and Trueman, both of Ward's Brook; Harold,
> Wilfred and
> > Lorne, all of Saint John; Thornton, Grand Manaan; and Brenton of Fox
> River.
> > The largely attended funeral service was held from her late home in Five
> > Islands on Sunday afternoon. All members of the family were present
> except
> > her brother, Harold who was at sea.
> > Source: Dave Winter
> > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >
> > David Winter wrote:
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > Eric:
> >> >
> >> > A real puzzler for sure!
> >> >
> >> > The only McCully daughters old enough to have him were:
> >> >
> >> > Winnie but she married 15 Jul 1919 to Bertram Amos McKay of Shulee
> >> > Gertrude but she married 11 Sep 1923 to Alvin Emerson Necombe
> >> > Carrie but she married 25 Sep 1924 to Onslow Alexander ³Onnie²
> Legere
> >> >
> >> > But then there¹s Bertha married 1 Nov 1928 to Roland Walter Marsh
> >> > and died
> >> > 13 Aug 1943. She¹d be single and about age 15 when ³Willie² was born
> >> > IF she
> >> > was his birth mother. Bertha and Meaurita appear to be twin
> sisters. I
> >> > can¹t
> >> > see Meaurita as Wilie¹s mother as she recognized Murray so why
> >> > wouldn¹t she
> >> > recognize Willie?
> >> >
> >> > Ruby and Gletta would have been too young.
> >> >
> >> > Also in Willie¹s obit, odd none of his 2 wives are mentioned;
> Mary Shannon
> >> > and Christine Mae Avery.
> >> >
> >> > Guess I¹ll have to add Winnie and Bertha¹s obits to the bucket list.
> >> >
> >> > Winnie was alive in 1985 when Brenton died but deceased in 1999 when
> >> > Gletta
> >> > and Emerson died.
> >> >
> >> > Has anyone checked the Herald Obit CD searching McCully/McCulley -
> >> > McKay/MacKay?
> >> >
> >> > Dave
> >> > ==============
> >> >
> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210>
> >>
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210>>
> >> >
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210>
> >>
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210>>
> >>
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=342210> > >
> >> > Details #342210
> >> > Index to New Brunswick Marriages
> >> > Name MCCULLEY, WILFRED LLOYD
> >> > Married SHANNON, MARY
> >> > Date 1945 | 01 | 04 (Y-M-D)
> >> > County SAINT JOHN
> >> > Parish SAINT JOHN
> >> > Number 40048
> >> > Reference B4/1945
> >> > Microfilm F20036
> >> >
> >> >
> http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804>
> >>
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804>>
> >> >
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804>
> >>
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804>>
> >>
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804
> <http://archives.gnb.ca/APPS/GovRecs/VISSE/141B7.aspx?L=EN&Key=302804> > >
> >> > Details #302804
> >> > Index to New Brunswick Marriages
> >> > Name AVERY, CHRISTINE MAE
> >> > Married MCCULLEY, WILFRED LLOYD
> >> > Date 1948 | 01 | 24 (Y-M-D)
> >> > County CHARLOTTE
> >> > Parish GRAND MANAN
> >> > Number 1129
> >> > Reference B4/1948
> >> > Microfilm F20049
> >> > +++++++++++++++++++
> >> >
> >> > On 1/5/10 6:52 PM, "keysie" <keysie@...
> <mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca>
> >> <mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca>
> >> > <mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca>> wrote:
> >> >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Dave/Jim:
> >>> > >
> >>> > > All this McCully reading has led me back to Gleta's brother,
> Willie,
> >> > whose
> >>> > > obit appears below together with a note from Jack Wagstaff to
> Jim Welsh.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Other than being predeceased "special uncle Lorne McCully" and
> >> > "sister Ruth"
> >>> > > no siblings are mentioned. Even the parents names are omitted.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > One question here is: was "Ruth" a misprint for Ruby Beatrice who
> >> > died in
> >>> > > December 2006? I do not have a Ruth as a sibling in this family.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > However, Ruby and Maurita were still alive in March 2004 but
> >> > Maurita's not
> >>> > > mentioned.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Jack suggests in his note to Jim that Wilfred Lloyd McCully may be
> >> > Seymore &
> >>> > > Maude's grandson as a son of an unmarried daughter. However, only
> >> > Winnifred
> >>> > > and Gertrude May were older than Wilfred and they were 5 and 2
> >> > respectively
> >>> > > when Wilfred was born in March 1903. It couldn't have been a
> son of
> >> > one of
> >>> > > the other children. So if Wilfred was an "adopted" son of
> Seymore &
> >> > Maude,
> >>> > > then who might he be? and who might "sister Ruth" be?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Turn over another rock and find...
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Eric
> >>> > >
> >>> > > ============================
> >>> > > Saint John Telepgraph published: Mar 17, 2004
> >>> > > McCULLY, WILFRED LLOYD "WILLIE" - Passed away peacefully at
> his home on
> >>> > > Monday, March 15, 2004. Husband of the late Christine Mae and
> special
> >>> > > companion of the late Myrtle Tonge. He is survived by his three
> >> > children;
> >>> > > Eugene (Luann) McCulley of Saint John, Deborah (John) Theriault of
> >>> > > Fredericton, and Rosalie (Nelson) Guthrie of Grand Manan. He
> is also
> >> > survived
> >>> > > by his five chosen children; Allen (Sylvia) Smith of Quispamsis,
> >> > Gary (Joanne)
> >>> > > Smith of Ontario, Colleen (Donald) Durant of Saint John, Dianne
> >> > (John) Mailman
> >>> > > of Nerepis, and Wayne Tonge of Barnesville; his many
> grandchildren,
> >> > and great
> >>> > > grandchildren; his special aunts, and uncles that were like
> brothers and
> >>> > > sisters to him; and his special friend and companion Beatrice
> >> > Gardner. He was
> >>> > > predeceased by his parents; ***sister Ruth***; ****special
> uncle Lorne
> >>> > > McCully****; chosen child Sheila (Smith) Paulin. Wilfred was a
> life long
> >>> > > member of the Royal Canadian Legion Branch #69. He served his
> >> > country in World
> >>> > > War II in the Merchant Navy. He worked with Irving until his
> >> > retirement from
> >>> > > CFM in 1990. During his spare time he loved attending Sunday
> evening
> >> > legion
> >>> > > dances, and spending time with his many friends. Resting at
> Brenan's
> >> > Select
> >>> > > Community Funeral Home 111 Paradise Row, Saint John, NB (506)
> >> > 634-7424 with
> >>> > > visitation on Thursday 2-4 and 7-9pm. Members of the Royal
> Canadian
> >> > Legion are
> >>> > > having a tribute service at the funeral home Thursday at 7pm. The
> >> > funeral
> >>> > > service will be held on Friday March 19, 2004 from Brenan's
> Funeral Home
> >>> > > Chapel at 10am. Interment will take place in Cedar Hill Ext.
> >> > Donations may be
> >>> > > made to Canadian Cancer Society or the New Brunswick Heart and
> Stroke
> >>> > > Foundation.www.brenansfh.com
> >>> > > [Source: Jack Wagstaff. 03/17/2004]
> >>> > > ============================
> >>> > > Note from Jack Wagstaff to James Welsh:
> >>> > > Has to be the s/o Seymore and Maude McCully of Port Greville
> and Fox
> >> > River
> >>> > > even though no mention is made of parents and the other approx. 14
> >> > siblings -
> >>> > > - only Lorne as an uncle. In fact, he was brought up as a s/o
> >> > Seymore and
> >>> > > Maude but I have heard that he was actually their grandson having
> >> > been born to
> >>> > > an unmarrried daughter of Seymore and Maude. This may account for
> >> > the reason
> >>> > > no siblings were in the obit and only his uncle Lorne.
> >>> > > [Source: Jack Wagstaff. 03/17/2004]
> >>> > > ============================
> >>> > > McCULLY, Lorne B. - 82, North Head Grand Manan, N.B., died
> December
> >> > 9, 2000,
> >>> > > in Colchester Regional Hospital, Truro. Born in Port Greville,
> >> > Cumberland Co.,
> >>> > > he was a son of the late Seymour and Maude (Ells) McCully. He
> began
> >> > his career
> >>> > > going to sea at a young age on sailing vessels plying the Minas
> >> > Basin, the Bay
> >>> > > of Fundy and the east coast of the United States. Later he was
> >> > employed for
> >>> > > many years as chief engineer on the Grand Manan Ferries from which
> >> > he retired.
> >>> > > He and his wife Stella owned and operated Lorne's Store in North
> >> > Head for many
> >>> > > years. For the past nine years he was a part-time resident of
> Parrsboro.
> >>> > > Surviving are his companion, Margie Manning, Parrsboro; chosen
> >> > daughter, Patty
> >>> > > Wood and family, North Head Grand Manan; sisters, Carrie Legère,
> >> > Amherst; Ruby
> >>> > > Allen, Fox River; Gertrude Newcomb, Parrsboro; Meaurita
> Hahnen, New
> >> > Glasgow;
> >>> > > brothers, Murray, Dartmouth; Wilford, Westville, NB. He was
> >> > predeceased by his
> >>> > > wife, the former Stella Stanley; brothers, Harold, Brenton,
> >> > Thornton, Emeron,
> >>> > > Truman; sisters, Gleta, Bertha, Winnifred. Funeral was held
> Wednesday in
> >>> > > Wesleyan United Church, North Head. Burial in the parish cemetery.
> >> > Donations
> >>> > > to Heart and Stroke Foundation or any charity. Arrangements
> >> > entrusted to Ells
> >>> > > Funeral Home, Grand Harbour, NB.
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
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