Dave
I have to move her an adopted status as well, as you say ages too close to
be the born daughter
Lawrence
From:
keysie@...
<mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca> > wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Dave/Lawrence:
>
> If Annie was born 1879, it's about 8 years before her parents married and
when
> her mother was only 11 years old. Anyone got a birthdate for Annie that
makes
> more sense?
>
> Thanks,
> Eric
>
> ==============================
> NSARM Cape Breton County Deaths, 1937; Book #166; Page #470
> Annie MacKay, Glace Bay, Married, Housewife
> Born ***30 Mar 1879 Parrsboro***
> Died 12 Jul 1937, Glace Bay, age 58 years, 3 months, 12 days, of Cerebral
> Hemorrhage
> W/o Duncan MacKay
> D/o George Welton, Parrsboro, and Louisa Vickery, Parrsboro
> Informant; Duncan MacKay, Glace Bay, Husband
> Buried 14 Jul 1937, Greenwood Cemetery
> [Source: Dave Winter, 14 May 2009]
> ==============================
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "David Winter" <davidwinter@...
<mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca>
> <mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca> >
> To: "nscumber" < > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 2:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [nscumber] Re: James Allan/Alban Welton
>
> Eric and Lawrence:
>
> George Edward Welton and Laura Jane Vickery had a daughter, Annie E.
Welton,
> m/1 Sabine L. Dow; m/2 Duncan S. MacKay. They also had an adopted son,
> Frederick Ashley Welton who m/1 Nora Viola Coffill. That¹s the
> daughter-in-law, Mrs. Fred Welton on George¹s death record.
>
> NSARM Cumberland Deaths: 1947; Book #1947; Page #2360
> George Edward Welton, Married, Parrsboro, Farmer
> Born 8 Apr 1861 N.S.
> Died 26 Mar 1947, Parrsboro, age 85 years, 1 month, 1 day, of a Stroke
> H/o Laura Welton; S/o Cephus Welton and Mary Welton (before marriage)
> Informant; Mrs. Fred Welton, Parrsboro, Daughter-in-law
> Buried 28 Mar 1947, Diligent River
>
> Source: Dave Winter 23 Aug 2007
> ==============
> Automated Genealogy Version:
> 1901 Cumberland County Census, Diligent River family #78, WELTON:
> 29 78 Welton George M Head M Apr 8 1861 39
> 30 78 Welton Laura J. F Wife M Feb 9 1868 33
> 31 78 Welton Fredrick A. M ***Adopted Son*** S Feb 15 1896 5
> ================
> Parrsboro Record, Tuesday, March 3, 1964, pg. #5; Reel #2868, NSARM,
> Halifax, N.S.
> OBITUARY: Fred Ashby Welton
> The death of Fred Ashby Welton occurred in South Cumberland Memorial
> Hospital, Parrsboro in the early morning of Wednesday, February 26. He was
> 68 years of age and had been ill for the past three months. Born at
Diligent
> River, he was the son of the late George and Laura Welton. He is survived
by
> his wife, Nora and five children; Carroll of Dartmouth; Marion, Ronald,
> Wayne and Linda, all of Parrsboro. The funeral service was held srom
Smith's
> Funeral Home on Friday, February 28 at 2:30 p.m. with Rev. H.D. Carlin
> officiating. Hymns were: "Beautiful Garden Of Prayer", "Beyond The Sunset"
> and "How Great Thou Art". Pallbearers were: George Graham; Earl Smith,
> Morris Gilbert and Aubrey Yorke. Interment was in the Baptist Cemetery at
> Diligent River.
>
> Source: Dave Winter, 28 Nov 2007
> =============================
>
> On 3/6/10 2:17 PM, "keysie" <keysie@...
<mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca>
> <mailto:keysie%40ns.sympatico.ca> > wrote:
>
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Lawrence:
>> >
>> > Maybe you didn't miss something at all. Your note got me thinking that
>> maybe,
>> > on the 1871 census, Mary Ann Welton actually was the wife of Cephas
Welton
>> > despite the 30 year age difference. Maybe she was his second wife. That
>> > would explain George's obituary reference to be son of Cephas.
>> >
>> > Cephas first wife (Cynthia Brown) dies 31 March 1848. Mary Ann Welton
(if
>> > that's her name) starts having children in 1855 (Jerusha) and ends in
1868
>> > (James Alban). Cephas dies on 15 November 1874. All the dates fit. The
>> > informant on Cephas' death registration is Mary Welton (doesn't prove
>> anything
>> > but ususally it was a male relative or wife!)
>> >
>> > I would venture a guess that Cephas' middle name might have been
William.
>> >
>> > I have remove "Mary Ann Welton" as a child of Cephas Welton and Cynthia
>> Brown
>> > - for now. They may well have had a dayghter named Mary born c
1829-1831
>> but
>> > I'm leaning in another direction on "Mary Ann Welton?"
>> >
>> > As Dave says "we need more information..."
>> >
>> > Thanks, Lawrence, for keeping the talk going so one can figure it out!
>> >
>> > Eric
>> > ----------------------------------------------------------
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "Lawrence Nicoll" <lrn@...
<mailto:lrn%40ns.sympatico.ca> <mailto:lrn%40ns.sympatico.ca>
>> <mailto:lrn%40ns.sympatico.ca> >
>> > To: < >> <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 10:58 AM
>> > Subject: RE: [nscumber] Re: James Allan/Alban Welton
>> >
>> > Oh Boy, did I miss this
>> >
>> > From the 1871 census, and of course your records, I take it that the
Mary
>> > Ann married to James William Welton is the d/o of Cephas, and basically
>> that
>> > is indicated by the 1871 census
>> >
>> > Lawrence
>> >
>> > From: >> <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > [mailto: >> <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > Behalf
>> > Of keysie
>> > Sent: March-05-10 6:32 PM
>> > To: >> <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > Subject: Re: [nscumber] Re: James Allan/Alban Welton
>> >
>> > Good afternoon, here's some meandering thoughts...
>> >
>> > ===========================
>> > 1871 Cumberland census, Mill Village A:
>> > 179 WELTON CEPHAS 71 W (widowed father)
>> > 179 WELTON WILLIAM 27 (William Harrison Welton)
>> > 179 WELTON MARY ANN 40 (no indication on census of her being married?)
>> > 179 WELTON ROSAMOND 14 (c/o Mary Ann?)
>> > 179 WELTON GEORGE 10 (c/o Mary Ann?)
>> > 179 WELTON JANE 05 (c/o Mary Ann?)
>> > 179 WELTON JAMES 02 (c/o Mary Ann?)
>> > ===========================
>> >
>> > Her husband, whom I had in notes as James William Welton, must've died
>> prior
>> > to the 1871 census or is away and was missed.
>> >
>> > Her brother, Smith Welton, is also deceased by 1870.
>> >
>> > Mary Ann is living with widower Thomas Hilgrove and his boys come 1881
>> > census, but where are her children, especially Janie (aged 15) and
James A
>> > (aged 12)?
>> >
>> > ===========================
>> > 1881 Cumberland census, Mill Village B:
>> > 253 HILGROVE DANIEL 08
>> > 253 HILGROVE JOHN 09
>> > 253 HILGROVE ROBERT 11
>> > 253 HILGROVE THOMAS 07
>> > 253 HILGROVE THOMAS 43 W
>> > ***253 WELTON MARY ANN 50****
>> > ===========================
>> >
>> > Back with the youngsters in 1891 and a Maud Welton has been added to
the
>> > family. Essie Maude was born until 1897.
>> >
>> > ===========================
>> > 1891 Cumberland census, Parrsboro B:
>> > 208 WELTON JAMES 22 (James Albon Welton)
>> > 208 WELTON JANE 24
>> > 208 WELTON MARY 60 W
>> > 208 WELTON MAUD 06 (?)
>> > ===========================
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> > From: "David Winter" <davidwinter@...
<mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca>
>> <mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca>
>> > <mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca>
>> > <mailto:davidwinter%40ns.sympatico.ca> >
>> > To: "nscumber" < >> <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com>
>> > <mailto:nscumber%40yahoogroups.com>
>>>> >> >
>> > Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 11:02 AM
>> > Subject: Re: [nscumber] Re: James Allan/Alban Welton
>> >
>> > Hi Rick:
>> >
>> > Another small piece of the Welton puzzle solved.
>> >
>> > Perhaps if Tracy inquires of Jim sometime, he may know a bit more.
>> >
>> > As for Maryann¹s husband, William, she was a widow in 1901 and there
were
>> no
>> > provincial death records kept between about 1875 and 1908. If whey were
>> > Baptist, then there¹s no church burial records available either,
similar to
>> > the Catholic, Anglican, Methodist/United and Presbyterian available for
>> that
>> > area.
>> >
>> > Maryann Welton was born 13 Nov 1829 so a marriage was possible between
say
>> > 1850 and 1864 when the province didn¹t keep records.
>> >
>> > Dave
>> >
>> > On 3/5/10 10:35 AM, "Rick" <rickandlouise@...
<mailto:rickandlouise%40rogers.com>
>> <mailto:rickandlouise%40rogers.com>
>> > <mailto:rickandlouise%40rogers.com>
>> > <mailto:rickandlouise%40rogers.com> > wrote:
>> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Thank you Tracy and Dave for the additional Welton information! I
can
use
>> > it!
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Dave, you're correct about Janey and James being Maryann's
children
and
>>>> >> > Clarence and Essie Maude being her grandchildren.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Clarence was brought up by James and his wife Bessie Yorke and
that
made
>> > him
>>>> >> > sort of a half brother to Annie Faulkenham (Bessie being Annie's
>>>> mother by
>> > her
>>>> >> > first husband).
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > After James and Bessie married, Janie and Essie Maude went to the
>>>>
County
>> > Home
>>>> >> > in Pugwash.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I have been pondering the question of who could be the husband of
>>>> Maryann
>>>> >> > Welton. I have her married to William but can't find his death
record.
>>>> >> > Neither have I been able to find any spousal connection to Maryann
in
any
>>>> >> > other of the male Welton obituaries. My new theory is that
MaryAnn's
>> > husband
>>>> >> > was the elusive Smith Welton son of Cephas. Smith was married and
died
in
>> > an
>>>> >> > accident when he was just 42.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > I just need to prove it.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Any thoughts?
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > As an aside I reseached a Smith Welton from Kings County but the
dates
>> > don't
>>>> >> > fit.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> > Rick
>>>> >> >
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